Mothers who want their daughters to die

The CDC is recommending a widespread program of immunizing females against the human papilomavirus (HPV), an oncogenic, sexually transmitted virus known to be the chief cause of cervical cancer. They advise immunizing girls as young as nine.

Interestingly, a number of mothers are saying they will fight the decision. Why? They believe that immunizing a child against a sexually transmitted disease will make that child think it’s okay to go have sex right away. That kind of perverted thinking says a lot more about the mind of the mother than the morals of the daughter, if you ask me. Never mind that it’s utterly illogical. Being vaccinated against polio doesn’t make kids want to eat shit, so why would being vaccinated against HPV make them want to have sex?

I can only conclude that these mothers must hate their daughters and want them to die. Their argument makes no sense – even if their daughters are saving themselves for marriage, there’s no guarantee they won’t be raped and infected. If you love your daughters and want to give them a chance against getting cancer later in life, get realistic and protect them now.

Am I the only person thinking the same stupid arguments are going to get trotted out if we find a vaccine against HIV?


5 Responses to “Mothers who want their daughters to die”

  1. I think it’s pretty much a given. You’ve been quoted, btw.

  2. thx 🙂 any excuse to introduce coprophagia into the subject.–>

  3. Apologies for responding to this so late. I have just stumbled upon your blog, moonflake, and while I do agree with many of your viewpoints, and am a skeptic myself (agnostic), I think you are missing some important information in your analysis of the reason for opposition by some to this vaccine.

    There are several reasons why many women’s health advocates are concerned over this recent addition to the immunization schedule, not the least of which is that the vaccine, itself, has had very little time to be studied for potentially dangerous side effects before it was effectively lobbied by Merck after barely a year of trial runs and approved by the FDA. Keep in mind, this is the same company responsible for the Vioxx debacle–another drug prematurely approved before longer clinical trials and several deadly adverse reactions forced Merck to withdraw the drug.

    Since its approval in 2006, there have been approximately 1900 adverse reactions reported, according to the CDC. These have ranged in degree from very minor to life- threatening. Furthermore, because of its rush for FDA approval, none of the clinical trials were actually long enough in duration to even allow for the growth of cancerous cells or tumors. The findings were based upon the prevention of genital warts and pre-cancerous cells from 4 strains of HPV. There are over 200 strains of the virus, and about 36 or 37 which can actually induce cervical cancer.

    Also, the manner in which this vaccine was approved as part of the schedule (for female prepubescents and teenagers), here in the state of Texas, was particularly odious to those of us who are staunch defenders of informed consent. That is, after having a private meeting with Merck representatives, Governor Rick Perry issued executive order thereby bypassing state legislature and any public discussion or debate, and had the vaccine added as mandatory, barely a month after it had received FDA approval. I don’t think I need to point out how surreptitious his eager endorsement appeared after his chat with the drug pushers from Merck.

    Before you ask, no I am not anti-medicine or medical technology. I am actually working towards my post-grad degree in Medical Anthropology, and I was a Nursing major who got hip deep in clinicals before switching to M.A. I have great appreciation for modern medicine; I have no appreciation, however, for profit-driven imperatives based upon inconclusive evidence, and most especially those handed down unilaterally in a form which directly touches the health and lives of children.

    A good friend of mine is a Labor and Delivery nurse, who has refused to allow her 9 year old daughter to be administered this vaccine, not out of religious intransigence, but because she, like many others in the health field, consider Gardasil to be an unknown in terms of efficacy or safety, both short term and long term. Many such as myself are quite wary of drugs and treatments common in the field of women’s health especially, since both history *and* current research reveal a distressing tendency among doctors and hospital administrators to favor convenience, profit, and self-protection (liability) over evidence-based care, as well as lack of respect for the autonomy of the client in decision-making. Again, this is not an attitude of anti-medical bias, because so many of the advocates I interact with are themselves involved or working in the health field in one way or another. Rather, it is a call to reform health care in this country to reflect its standards based upon scientific method and solid research, rather than anecdotal evidence and corporate profit.

    Anyhow, I wished to present another perspective to this issue, as so often the religious faction, with their famous aversion to frank and honest sexual education, tend to dominate and become the face of “anti-HPV vaccine” people. There are many of us who are disinclined to subject our children as living experiments for a vaccine for which there is insufficient clinical data, and from a company with a history of marketing at least one dangerous drug.

    If you’ve read this far, moonflake, I look forward to reading more of your blog. I find your rational and critical approach to important issues refreshing and enjoyable to read. Thank you.

  4. Thank you for your response. The reasons you give are all very salient reasons for opposing a vaccine’s release. However, I think you will agree that these are not the reasons being given by the specific group I am talking about. In all certainty, the group I’m talking about are not at all aware of the reasons you give, but are instead displaying a knee-jerk reaction.

    I’m not saying there aren’t reasons to oppose a vaccine release. Insufficient testing and dubious efficacy are excellent reasons in anyone’s book. But the reasons being cited here, that their children will become sexually promiscuous if given the vaccine, are ludicrous and worthy of scorn.

  5. Of course, I agree with you that the religous faction do give what is, IMO, a very illogical reason for refusing the vaccine. I just wish that they would be given less air time, and that others who have legitimate concerns might have more. Because the media almost always focus on only the religious objectors, the perception is that if you hesitate to receive Gardasil, you must be some kind of religous nut. And Merck’s newest product appears validated simply by virtue of the only visible opponents of it.

    As for the rationale that children will become foolishly promicuous if given the vaccine, I think that that possibility only becomes true if they are not given the weighy and important information that Gardasil may only protect against *one* sexually transmitted disease. They need to understand that it will not block the transmission of HIV or other diseases. That is “duh” information to you or myself, but the sad truth is that the ones who are so fearful that Gardasil would be the ticket to Harlot City for their kids, are the very ones who resent and would seek to eliminate thorough sexual education and ready access to condoms in schools. IMO, it’s *their* kids who would likely be the ones to go crazy after having the immunization; because unlike their secular, informed peers, they aren’t being told the limitations of the vaccine. Combine that ignorance with a lack of access to condoms and a lack of understanding of STDs, and I’d say those kids are at increased risk–not just of “promiscuity,” but of pregnancy and life-threatening diseases. In my experience, it’s typically the more repressed kids that go nuts with even a little bit of perceived freedom.

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